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LAW OFFICES OF WARREN R. SHIELL

Certified Family Law Specialist

(310) 247-9913

Aren’t Prenups unromantic and indicate a lack of trust?

Even though one in ten couples now enter into some kind of prenuptial or premarital agreement (“prenups”) many 
couples are reluctant to sign a prenup because it seems unromantic and indicates a lack of trust.

There are several reasons why this reluctance is misplaced.  

First, if you do not sign a prenup, your marriage will be governed by a complex set of laws. In California they are the 
California Family Code and Probate Code. Either way your marriage will be governed by a complex set of rules. The 
choice is between a set of rules negotiated by you or imposed by the State.

Second, from a historical perspective, premarital contracts lie at the root of the institution of marriage. For two 
thousand years, Jewish marriages have been preceded by a prenuptial agreement called the “Ketubah.”

Third, far from undermining trust, the process of drafting and negotiating a prenuptial agreement may, in fact, 
strengthen your relationship. The process requires a full disclosure of your financial situation and involves an open 
and honest discussion of about how you will handle your money and plan your future. One psychiatrist states: “openly 
agreed upon rules are likely to be a better foundation for growth than are those latent rules that surface and prove to be 
either disagreeable or downright outrageous (‘What do you mean, you don’t do dishes?’)”

Fifth, prenups prepare you for marriage. Sooner or later you are going to have to talk about money issues. Why not do it 
now and save heartache and trouble later on? After your honeymoon is over you will soon find out how earning and 
spending money is an integral part of your marriage. The Catholic Church recognized this fact and incorporates a 
prenuptial dialogue in a marital preparation process called “Pre-Cana.”

Sixth, prenups can be drafted to protect both spouses not just a wealthy spouse.

Seventh, it just makes sense. No-one plans on their house burning down, ending up in a nursing home or suffering a 
disability but they still take out insurance. As Dr. Ruth says: “We live in such a litigious society. Nobody knows what life 
brings. Hopefully we will never need it. What’s the big deal? Let’s do it and give it to the attorneys…for the new 
millennium, a prenup is part of a mature relationship, based on love, mutual trust and optimism.”

 



Do I need a California Prenup even if I don’t plan to live here?

Even if you do not live here when you divorce, California can still assert jurisdiction over you for support, attorneys' fees, 
and the division of property. California also applies the doctrine of divisible divorce which means that each aspect of a 
divorce is treated differently for jurisdictional purposes. For example, a California court could assert jurisdiction over 
custody and visitation matters but relinquish property matters to the Court of another state. Consider the billion dollar 
divorce of David and Susanne Sapperstein. Vanity Fair reported that David Sapperstein left was his wife of 23 years for 
their Swedish nanny. Suzanne lived in Los Angeles with their youngest child in what is reported to be the most 
expensive mansion in Los Angeles. During a trip to France on the couple’s gulf stream jet, David said they had to stop 
over in Houston, Texas where he had business. Once they hit the ground, his attorneys served Suzanne with divorce 
papers. A few days later she filed divorce papers in California. Why? California has more liberal rules on alimony 
(spousal support) than Texas which ends after three years.

Even though a California prenup is designed to apply only if you are divorced in California, it may apply if you are 
divorced in another state. That result is not guaranteed but there is a good chance that it will be. If you want to make 
sure that your California prenup is enforced in other states you need to retain counsel in that state to review the prenup.

There is an even greater risk that a California prenup will not be enforced in a foreign country. Many countries such as 
Denmark, France and Germany recognize prenups but have different marital laws and specific procedures for the 
execution and registration of prenups. England and Australia do not recognize prenups but some courts have taken 
them into account when dividing property. If you plan on living in another country you should consult with a family law 
attorney in that jurisdiction.



Sex and Prenups

California prenups cannot regulate child custody or child support.  They cannot regulate your behavior and they cannot 
punish a spouse for being unfaithful. In one highly publicized prenup, a New Mexico couple agreed that they should 
have sex at least five times a week, pay for everything in cash and not leave clothes strewn on the floor. Those 
provisions wouldn’t be enforceable in California. It should be noted that the couple are reportedly still happily married.



Religion and Prenups

Prenups cannot regulate the practice of religion. However, in one important area prenups can provide a spouse with 
an important religious protection. Under traditional Jewish law, if a husband does not grant his wife a religious divorce 
or “get,” the woman is considered an “agunah” and cannot get re-married. California does not have a “get” law like 
New York so in order to protect a Jewish woman’s right to a “get” it is suggested that a prenup contains a penalty 
clause that the husband pays a fine for every day he does not grant a “get.”



Prenups and Community Property

In the absence of a prenup, California community property law provides that all community property (any property 
acquired during the marriage that is not a gift or an inheritance) is divided equally upon divorce. It usually does not 
matter if the property is in one party’s name – if it is acquired during marriage, with some exceptions, it is community 
property. Property owned before marriage is separate property and cannot be divided by a court and belongs to that 
party. However, efforts to improve, enhance or contribute to separate property can create a community property interest 
in that separate property. That is where a prenup comes into play. A prenup can provide that your spouse never 
acquires a community interest in your separate property.

If you do not have a prenup, the determination of what is separate and what is community property often requires the 
use of forensic accountants. In high-asset cases, the accounting and legal fees can run into the hundreds of 
thousands, or even millions, of dollars. Furthermore, in determining whether a business owned before marriage has 
any community interest, the property must be valued both at the time of marriage and at the time of separation, and 
sometimes again at the time of the divorce trial which can be years after filing for divorce. Similar calculations are 
made for real estate and intellectual property. Furthermore, earnings are community property. If you married without a 
prenup and earned $50,000,000 during your marriage, that entire sum would be community property. That means your 
spouse would own one-half of that property and anything purchased with that property.

Furthermore, if you lost any of that money in a bad investment or mismanaged your assets, your spouse may have an 
action against you for a breach of fiduciary duty. And if you reinvested those earnings in a separate property business 
or any other property, your spouse could request that you reimburse the community for the money spent. In a long term 
marriage that tracing may be impossible to do and sometimes the person claiming a separate property interest 
forfeits their claim.

Under California law, the proceeds of loans are community property under certain circumstances. If an individual owns 
companies and uses financing or factoring to finance a business, the loan proceeds can be so commingled in the 
business that the owner can end up losing his separate property interest. Also if you refinance your real estate, you 
may be contributing community property to your separate property asset.

A prenup can regulate all aspects of how separate and community property assets and liabilities are treated.  In the 
case of a financially independent couple with their own resources a prenup can provide that all income, assets and 
debts acquired or incurred remain separate property. Alternatively, in lieu of a community property distribution, a 
wealthier spouse might agree to pay the other spouse a lump sum based on the length of the marriage. On the other 
hand, a couple might agree that all property accumulated during the marriage remain community property but that 
certain property brought into the marriage such as family businesses or funds always remains separate property. 
Since each situation is different a prenup should be carefully tailored to meet the circumstances of each couple.



Spousal Support

California law allows you to waive or limit spousal support as long as the provision is not deemed unconscionable. 
Unfortunately, as yet there is no case law defining the word "unconscionable."  If there is a significant disparity in the 
amount of wealth between the parties, instead of waiving spousal support, the prenup may place limits on the amount 
and duration of support. The amount and duration can be based on a formula which takes account of the income of 
the parties and the duration of the marriage.



Do it right

When Steven Spielberg and actress Amy Irving divorced after four years, she argued that their prenup which was 
written on the back of a napkin was not enforceable because she was not represented by an attorney.  The Judge 
agreed and she received a $100 million settlement.  When Spielberg married Kate Capshaw, both were represented 
by attorneys.

Prenuptial Agreements

Acclaimed lawyers representing business owners, property developers, investors, doctors, surgeons, celebrities, professional athletes and other high net-worth individuals and their spouses.  We are experts in protecting your privacy, keeping your information confidential and ensuring your divorce is finalized efficiently and with sensitivity. 

Enforceability of Prenups

We act as mediators or as consulting attorneys to help people resolve their family law issues through mediation. The great advantage of mediation is that people reach desirable settlements with lessened conflict, stress and legal fees. Particularly where children are involved, a mediated settlement often provides a better foundation for a future working relationship with your ex-partner.  

California Premarital Act

Our job is to help you navigate this emotional and difficult process. We focus on child-centered amicable mediated settlements designed to provide a foundation for your future co-parenting relationship. In those cases where a parenting plan cannot be resolved through negotiation, we zealously litigate to defend you and your children’s best interests.  

Warren R. Shiell, Certified Family Law Specialist

Warren R. Shiell is a Certified Family Law Specialist - a distinction earned by less than 1 in 200 family attorneys and has been endorsed by other family lawyers and family court judges. Applying nearly 30 years of legal experience, Mr. Shiell focuses on resolving his clients’ family law issues with a minimum amount of conflict and litigation through the use of negotiation, mediation and settlement conferences.

Graduating from Oxford University with an M.A. in Law in 1985, Mr. Shiell practiced commercial litigation in the City of London before moving to New York. In New York, Mr. Shiell handled numerous civil and family law trials and won several appeals at the New York Appellate Division. Mr. Shiell’s practice is focused exclusively on family law. He has lectured and published articles on behalf of various local Bar Associations, newspapers and magazines and has volunteered his time for a number of not-for-profit legal organizations. He has been 

named a "Super Lawyer" by Los Angeles Magazine and has served as a member of the Family Law Executive Committee of the Los Angeles County Bar Association.

Family Law Attorney, Certified Family Law Specialist
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"Mr Shiell recently represented me for 

almost one year in a prolonged, complicated, legal action to reduce and or eliminate my alimony obligation.  Warren is extremely knowledgeable, fair, 
responsive, wise, and very experienced with a chaotic legal system. He knew which additional experts were critical to the successful resolution of my case.

Although Warren gives the appearance of being very calm and "laid back"  he is a tough negotiator and always represented my best interests against a team of lawyers who were aggressive and 
extremely confrontational. I value Warren's advice and in retrospect, he was 100% accurate in all the information he conveyed to me in a timely fashion. Warren's billing was honest and fair. 
Thankfully, my alimony "battle" is now behind me with a successful resolution thanks to the expertise of Mr Shiell.  Based on my personal experience, I highly recommend Warren Shiell!"

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"Warren is conscientious, reliable, intelligent, and professional.  He did great work for me and I'd happily work with him again in the future.  He explained everything to me clearly in terms I could 
understand, and followed through with excellent results.  His knowledge and experience in family law is unrivaled - some of his work has become case law!  In fact, the lawyer on the other side of the table clearly respected Warren very highly, which helped resolve things very quickly and effectively."

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"Warren represented me as I went through a very difficult divorce. I have an 8 month old daughter and was emotionally drained from the events leading up to the dissolution of my marriage and discouraged by the thought of being a single mom. Warren made my life so much easier and kept me calm, collected and focused in court. He is honest, helpful, organized and thorough. When judgement came back in my favor, I had only Warren to thank. Even after my case was settled, he 
continued to be helpful by answering any questions I had going forward. I would recommend Warren to anyone needing an attorney and I now see why a judge in the Los Angeles area referred me to him. That referral is one that I am the most grateful for. Thank you Warren! My daughter and 
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